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andyd12345 10:43 Tue Jul 5
Our approach to transfers
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Has anyone else found our approach to transfers a little bit amateurish over the last 6 weeks?
It's no secret that we are after a top striker, but we seem to be going for the scattergum approach again, which very rarely works. First we were looking at Benteke, then Bony, then Lacazette, then Batshuayi, then Mario Gomez, then Janssen and now we are almost back to square one and sniffing around Van Persie. It's almost as thought we don't really know what we need.
Do we need a pacy, big strong front man like Batshuayi, or do we need a less mobile front man that is much better in the air like Benteke, or do we need a mixture of both like Lacazette. Surely we know the type of system we are looking to play, and we should be finding players that suit our system rather than getting whichever player bites first, and then trying to build a system after that.
Our early summer free transfers have been excellent business, but we've known since last Summer that we really needed a top draw striker. We should have highlighted 1 or 2 players that we were going to go all out for, and paid whatever necessary (within reason) to get one of them. If Batshuayi was that man then we should have made a proper bid from the offset and got the deal done. He's ended up moving for about £35m so well within our price range, and Chelsea wouldn't have been in a position to compete as their new manager was tied up at the Euros and cant imagine he would have wanted to sanction any deal of that value. I really think we've missed a trick here. We've lost him to Chelsea, looks likely that we'll lose Lacazette to Arsenal, Janssen is going to Spurs, Benteke to Palace and we are left in a very difficult position.
I'd like to see a much more targeted approach to our transfers, a la Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd. Pick a player, make the decision that he is the one we want and go all out to get him.
Bilic has my trust and support
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andyd12345
10:43 Tue Jul 5
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scatterguN*
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stewie griffin
10:47 Tue Jul 5
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Don't think our approach has been particularly scattergun at all, tbh.
Lacazette was our number 1 target. Lyon acted like cunts, so we moved on to others. Fwiw, I think he still is the number 1 target, and many of the others have been linked to get Lyon to stop being French cunts.
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Lee Trundle
10:49 Tue Jul 5
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What stewie said.
Personally, I'm happy were shopping in the same isle for strikers as Chelsea and Arsenal. It will mean we'll miss out on some targets to them, like Batshuayi, but hopefully we'll end up with someone decent.
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Mr. Burns
10:51 Tue Jul 5
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stewie griffin 10:47 Tue Jul 5
What are Lyon up to Griff0?
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AKA ERNIE
10:51 Tue Jul 5
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No but then I'm not a cunt that believes everything in the papers or newsnow like some retards
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stewie griffin
10:53 Tue Jul 5
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well we offered in excess of 30 million bucks, so most would consider that a reasonable offer...but they're holding out for more.
At least that was the original situation,. not sure whether its dead or not now....
They communicated that they wanted more by the medium of MIME, whilst riding round on a unicycle in a blue & white striped t shirt with a ring of onions around their necks. Cunts
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Mr. Burns
10:55 Tue Jul 5
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"They communicated that they wanted more by the medium of MIME, whilst riding round on a unicycle in a blue & white striped t shirt with a ring of onions around their necks. Cunts"
Agreed. If they are going to do it properly it should be black and white not blue and white!
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Lily Hammer
11:00 Tue Jul 5
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We get the same complaints every window, yet we've mostly been pretty pleased with transfer activity by the end of each window, so I'm chilling for now, at the same time as loking forward to seeing Nordveit and Feghouli in action.
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B6NY B
11:00 Tue Jul 5
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AKA ERNIE 10:51 Tue Jul 5 Re: Our approach to transfers
'No but then I'm not a cunt that believes everything in the papers or newsnow like some retards'
What about the Sullivan's teenage son commenting on every link and getting his 'mate' Ex to update supporters every Sunday?
It's fucking amateur and makes us look desperate.
She ban him from twitter.
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Sven Roeder
11:07 Tue Jul 5
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The original Breton tops were navy and white and had 21 stripes. One for each of Napolean's victories
And its STRING of onions , SURELY?
Lyon are entitled to drive the best bargain for their player. Whether their strategy results in an auction and more is yet to be determined. My view is that if a player is indifferent to our approach I'd rather move on to our next target.
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AKA ERNIE
11:09 Tue Jul 5
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Couldn't give a toss don't read it if you're that bothered
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Alex V
11:10 Tue Jul 5
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Good topic. Our last two Summers in the transfer market have been wildly successful with the same approach, so broadly I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Yes it is scattershot, but how many offers would we guess that almost any club put in over a Summer on average? I would guess it's in the hundreds, whether formal bids or informal enquiries. I think very few clubs identify one target then go all out to get them - it might possibly happen at the very top of the market, like Chelsea going for Costa, or Man City for De Bruyne. Even then I'd guess there's a price they want to pay, and a price where they pull out - almost every club has a structure now where they have to justify the prices they pay to the board or owner or committee.
I dispute that other clubs like Man Utd or Arsenal really have it any different than us. Arsenal have been linked with Vardy, Janssen, Batshuayi and Lacazette same as us. Martial was clearly not Man Utd's first choice last Summer - in fact he might have been bottom of their preferred shortlist as the transfer was last-minute.
The point I do agree on is that the strikers we have looked at all seem very different. The only thing that connects them really is that they're expensive strikers. I think that speaks to the reality of recruitment at our level - it's not possible to guarantee any one target, so the manager is going to have to be flexible enough to work with the style of striker he ends up with. That's the reality.
I also think the club did have those one or two players to go all out for. I'm sure every shortlist is prioritised so clubs know what their first choice is. What we don't want is a situation where Batshuayi turns us down and there's no plan B. That would be the worst case scenario. The club is apparently running a shortlist of around 10 targets - I would argue that the longer the list the better. We might get our top target, or we might get number 17 - what's important is that the best possible result is achieved with the players available.
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Lee Trundle
11:10 Tue Jul 5
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The twitter stuff is really easy to ignore if you don't use it.
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Rossal
11:12 Tue Jul 5
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We've signed the joint most players of any prem club
We've picked up two good free signings
All the rest no-one really knows whats going on, just trust Slav and the two Daves. There record in recent seasons has been immaculate let them get on with it im sure come first game of the season we'll be in good shape.
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Trevor B
11:12 Tue Jul 5
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"I'd like to see a much more targeted approach to our transfers, a la Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd. Pick a player, make the decision that he is the one we want and go all out to get him."
Which is a lot easier to do when you are the likes of the teams you have mentioned. When they go in for a player that player will rarely turn down the move. We are a different kettle of fish and top players need to be persuaded to join, much like what happened with Payet last summer. We could of course aim lower and get our man right away, but then the board would be criticised for not having ambition.
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Banjo
11:13 Tue Jul 5
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AKA ERNIE 11:09 Tue Jul 5
Attention deficit disorder.?
A good point of view just cannot be encapsulated in 50 words or less....I see, you've stopped reading already......
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Trevor B
11:14 Tue Jul 5
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Plus it's always harder to negotiate over a tournament, players and agents are away more and if you are trying to get a team to part with a player they will then find it harder to secure a replacement, so it can be a bit of a domino effect. You will see transfers around the world pick up once the tournament is finished.
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Alex V
11:14 Tue Jul 5
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We clearly bid £30m+ for both Batshuayi and Lacazette. Absurd prices - nobody could argue those are value deals. If that's not a club going all out for a player I don't know what is!
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Mr Anon
11:15 Tue Jul 5
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It's only scattergun if you believe that everything the press writes is true, which is highly unlikely.
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Takashi Miike
11:15 Tue Jul 5
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yes. it's been a bit disappointing, especially when you consider how much money they have to spend. maybe they'll still bring in the 'big name striker' we need but I wouldn't hold my breath. im pleased with feghouli though and nordveit should also be a good buy
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